Talk

The Fate of Nations

Ben Stuart
September, 15, 2024

In week two of Believers in Babylon, Ben Stuart leads us in the different perspectives of Nebuchadnezzar, the advisors, and Daniel as a dream is given as a picture of determining destinies.

Key Takeaway

When we see things from God's perspective, we can be used by Him in ways that bring others to see His glory and plan for their lives.

How do we know that the Bible is the Word of God?

  • Experience
  • Correspondence
  • Spirituality
  • Supernatural composition and preservation of the Word of God through history.
  • Prophecy

Daniel 2 prophecy is so exact that secular commentators say it had to be written later because only God knows the future.

There is a message for both the believer and the Babylonian. God let the Babylonians see what was to come, and he let the believer help the Babylonians understand. This is why God will put believers in power: to help people understand.

  • How will the kingdoms fall? A rock. The least precious of all the materials mentioned. The Stone of Stumbling, the Rock of Offense, the Cornerstone, the Rock of Ages. A stone cut without human hands. In the Old Testament, God told them not to cut the altars with human hands. Other religions would carve ornate alters and God's people stacked stones. The purpose was to know that we don't do things that make us acceptable to God. God is the only One who makes peace with us; the stones are carved by Him. In the New Testament, when Paul says, "They are circumcised without hands," he means that only God can give them a new heart. They have more than the outward sign of religion.
  • When the Rock touches the feet of that statue, the kingdoms won't just fall; they'll become dust in the wind. His Kingdom shall become a mountain and endure forever and ever. It will be divine, eternal, triumphant, and final, and it will surely come. So, is it Jesus at his first coming? Yes, Jesus quotes Daniel as he nears his death. Jesus says the kingdom is at hand. He is that little stone.
  • But Jesus didn't take down the kingdoms of man at His first coming. He established a kingdom, but He will come again at His second coming. When He returns, all earthly kingdoms will fall, and He will rule forever. This is also referenced in Daniel 7. So the Kingdom of God has come into our hearts, and we still pray, "Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven."

To the Babylonians, the Nebuchadnezzars, those who don't know that God is Heaven or the Cornerstone, who were rejected, Jesus Christ:

  • You have glory because you're made in God's image. Your glory is derivative of God. You are what you are because God made you special and unique. God put you here and all that you have is from Him.
  • This God will take you out. God's Kingdom will take yours over. All the kingdoms of the earth will fade. His Kingdom will never pass away. So, acknowledge His sovereignty, repent, and bow down. See Acts 17:24-31. God has determined your days to live. He wants you to seek Him, and He will save you.

To the Believer:

  • Power is in God's hands, not in whoever currently rules the earth. God rules over the nations, and we know Him, so we are sustained by the knowledge of His power over the rulers.
  • This perspective gives us peace. We're supposed to talk like Jesus, who, when on trial, said, "You have no authority over me except what was given to you from above." Our peace in political instability will spook people, but they will come to know what you know.
  • We endure, we persevere. Daniel knew he was there for a while, so he allowed God to sustain him. God sent you where you are and positioned you with a perspective that gives you peace with a purpose to persevere for His glory and the good of Babylon. Those who have hope purify themselves. We know our King is coming for us, so we live with confidence in the day of waiting.
"God doesn't just rule, He reveals. He's not just sovereign, He speaks."
Ben Stuart

Discussion Questions

  1. What is the book of Daniel a combination of?

  2. In Daniel 2, we see God doing something amazing. How do we know that the Bible is the Word of God?

  3. Nebuchadnezzar is greatly troubled about his dream; what did he gather his spiritual advisors to do?

  4. Why did the king put them to the test? What was at risk?

  5. The advisors seek out Daniel. According to Daniel 2: 17-18, what did Daniel do after they approached him?

  6. Daniel is given a revelation from the Lord and cannot only tell the king his dream but interpret it. What was Daniel's response to God and to Nebuchadnezzar about this? See Daniel 2:20-23, 28.

  7. What do the different parts of the statue represent?

  8. Do the feet and toes represent the first coming of Jesus or His second?

  9. If you don't know Jesus, how does Acts 17:24-31 challenge your rejection of Him?

  10. If you're a believer, what is your role in living in this world of instability?

Scripture References

Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream

1In the second year of his reign, Nebuchadnezzar had dreams; his mind was troubled and he could not sleep. 2So the king summoned the magicians, enchanters, sorcerers and astrologers to tell him what he had dreamed. When they came in and stood before the king, 3he said to them, “I have had a dream that troubles me and I want to know what it means.

4Then the astrologers answered the king, “May the king live forever! Tell your servants the dream, and we will interpret it.”

5The king replied to the astrologers, “This is what I have firmly decided: If you do not tell me what my dream was and interpret it, I will have you cut into pieces and your houses turned into piles of rubble. 6But if you tell me the dream and explain it, you will receive from me gifts and rewards and great honor. So tell me the dream and interpret it for me.”

7Once more they replied, “Let the king tell his servants the dream, and we will interpret it.”

8Then the king answered, “I am certain that you are trying to gain time, because you realize that this is what I have firmly decided: 9If you do not tell me the dream, there is only one penalty for you. You have conspired to tell me misleading and wicked things, hoping the situation will change. So then, tell me the dream, and I will know that you can interpret it for me.”

10The astrologers answered the king, “There is no one on earth who can do what the king asks! No king, however great and mighty, has ever asked such a thing of any magician or enchanter or astrologer. 11What the king asks is too difficult. No one can reveal it to the king except the gods, and they do not live among humans.”

12This made the king so angry and furious that he ordered the execution of all the wise men of Babylon. 13So the decree was issued to put the wise men to death, and men were sent to look for Daniel and his friends to put them to death.

14When Arioch, the commander of the king’s guard, had gone out to put to death the wise men of Babylon, Daniel spoke to him with wisdom and tact. 15He asked the king’s officer, “Why did the king issue such a harsh decree?” Arioch then explained the matter to Daniel. 16At this, Daniel went in to the king and asked for time, so that he might interpret the dream for him.

17Then Daniel returned to his house and explained the matter to his friends Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah. 18He urged them to plead for mercy from the God of heaven concerning this mystery, so that he and his friends might not be executed with the rest of the wise men of Babylon. 19During the night the mystery was revealed to Daniel in a vision. Then Daniel praised the God of heaven 20and said:

“Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever;

wisdom and power are his.

21He changes times and seasons;

he deposes kings and raises up others.

He gives wisdom to the wise

and knowledge to the discerning.

22He reveals deep and hidden things;

he knows what lies in darkness,

and light dwells with him.

23I thank and praise you, God of my ancestors:

You have given me wisdom and power,

you have made known to me what we asked of you,

you have made known to us the dream of the king.”

Daniel Interprets the Dream

24Then Daniel went to Arioch, whom the king had appointed to execute the wise men of Babylon, and said to him, “Do not execute the wise men of Babylon. Take me to the king, and I will interpret his dream for him.”

25Arioch took Daniel to the king at once and said, “I have found a man among the exiles from Judah who can tell the king what his dream means.”

26The king asked Daniel (also called Belteshazzar), “Are you able to tell me what I saw in my dream and interpret it?”

27Daniel replied, “No wise man, enchanter, magician or diviner can explain to the king the mystery he has asked about, 28but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries. He has shown King Nebuchadnezzar what will happen in days to come. Your dream and the visions that passed through your mind as you were lying in bed are these:

29“As Your Majesty was lying there, your mind turned to things to come, and the revealer of mysteries showed you what is going to happen. 30As for me, this mystery has been revealed to me, not because I have greater wisdom than anyone else alive, but so that Your Majesty may know the interpretation and that you may understand what went through your mind.

31“Your Majesty looked, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. 32The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, 33its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. 34While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

36“This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37Your Majesty, you are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38in your hands he has placed all mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds in the sky. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold.

39“After you, another kingdom will arise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. 40Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

44“In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.

“The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy.”

46Then King Nebuchadnezzar fell prostrate before Daniel and paid him honor and ordered that an offering and incense be presented to him. 47The king said to Daniel, “Surely your God is the God of gods and the Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, for you were able to reveal this mystery.”

48Then the king placed Daniel in a high position and lavished many gifts on him. He made him ruler over the entire province of Babylon and placed him in charge of all its wise men. 49Moreover, at Daniel’s request the king appointed Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego administrators over the province of Babylon, while Daniel himself remained at the royal court.

24“The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands.
25And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else.
26From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.
27God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.
28‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’
29“Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design and skill.
30In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent.
31For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”

Ben Stuart
Ben Stuart
Ben Stuart is the pastor of Passion City Church D.C. Prior to joining Passion City Church, Ben served as the executive director of Breakaway Ministries on the campus of Texas A&M. He also earned a master’s degree in historical theology from Dallas Theological Seminary. He and his wife, Donna, live to inspire and equip people to walk with God for a lifetime.